ComRes reports 14% Tory lead
April 28th, 2008
The only detail at the moment is from Andrew Grice’s blog at the paper. He writes: “If Gordon Brown was hoping that the row over his decision to abolish the 10p lower rate of income tax would not damage Labour, he’ll be very disappointed by the latest monthly ComRes survey for The Independent. The Tories have doubled their lead since last month from seven to 14 points, the biggest since ComRes began polling for the paper in September 2006.”
That’s the only information that’s available.
The last ComRes poll at the end of March had the Tories on 38%, Labour on 31% with the Lib Dems on 17%.
Mike Smithson
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Who is this Labour person on the Sky News debate? He is trying far too hard to defend Ken, it actually comes across as really annoying.
It’s amazing to watch people continue to blunder on in the face of such adversity. I think that, as a species, we are incredibly more obstinate than we give ourselves credit for. Such a vast capacity for self-delusion.
Crewe’s going to be worse than London, in many ways. Ken can be written off as a maverick, who said some silly things that lost him an election, but Crewe. It’ll be a sign of the end…
Its a simple as this. It looks like the Tories have a double digit lead in the country for real.
Interesting that stories are emerging fo Labour belief that they’ll lose 120-150 seats on Thursday but may send out the inflated expectation management figure of 200 so that if it is 150 it doesnt look so bad.
New ARSE developing ….
You go away for three weeks. Give up the computer as a promise to the family, you come back and find that Brown has become more unpopular than he was back in March. You also find that the 10p tax band cut hurt him hard. How long ago was it did we point out to Nick P that this would cause problems? Why did it take the labour party so long to discover this?
And Boris looks like he his going to win in London. Happy days!!!
3-I thought you meant lose 12-150 seats at the next GE!
Or even 120!!
3, I saw that on Five News (I was channel hopping and stopped as I saw the story).
If they lose more than a handful of seats it’ll be bad, because they’re starting from a pitifully low base.
sky debate looks like it will be fun gilligan in full flow about ken being ‘unfit for office’
New PPP …. Yes the “We Suck” Pollsters …. Primary poll for North Carolina :
Clinton 39% .. Obama 51%
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_042808.pdf
[4] - With leads this big you might need two to contain them.
I don’t know if the Tories have a lead, but I do feel that the Labour vote is very demoralised. I was at a trade union meeting the other week and the consensus at the room was that they were very down on Labour policy but couldn’t really see themselves voting for another party so they were just going to stay home.
I can see that happening in the local elections. In my council, Thurrock I can see the BNP taking five seats in the council from Labour as last time out the gaps between the two parties in what should be safe Labour seats were actually very small. If Labour votes stay home, then the BNP could prosper.
Sky has made a mockery of the licence fee tax.
12,
If people do not vote they can hardly complain about the shower that then govern them.
Live Sky debate for those who don’t have it….
http://news.sky.com/skynews/livenewsevents
Well, if your going on cheers from the audience. Boris is walking it.
What are the LD’s scoring?
Ave it sensible early week opinion
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CON WORLDWIDE DOMINATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AVE ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!
15,
That does not take a lot!!
14 - We’re talking about majorities as little as 50 votes here.
Why do the debates always mention the canditates ages? - Surely this is against age discrimination laws.
Here we go! Boris sounding like he means business from the off.
I think they both see this as important.
Paddick just seems odd.
17 - Your obsession with the LDs is sweet - but the clue in the thread header is “That’s the only information that’s available.”
Paddick skewers Livingstone about his lying over the Olympics
14% lead would be the conservatives biggest ever with ComRes.
That was pretty cutting by Paddick to Ken, the debate style actually helps remarks like that as they are giving each candidate 20 seconds of retort time to the welcoming speeches.
Ken needs to put the fear of god into voters about Boris, I think he did some of that with his starting speech but there was too many statistics and figures.
13-This is a poll tax the BBC has no problem supporting. Or indeed for the left to ignore the “ability to pay/fairness” issue.
You know a candidate is done when the others start being nice to him.
Clearly this is a rogue poll. Labour just isnt getting it’s message across.
“The economy is in a very good state and immigration is making everyone rich. We have poured billions of pounds into many different places. There are no wars. Defence spending is up by 3d since 1997.”
We are fighting the Americans. We are beating the Americans. We are winning the Americans.
Where is this debate being held?
Very quick, confident putdown by Boris there, that’ll hurt Ken.
Boris starts off brilliantly. “i had no idea you would be so foolish as to seek a third term”
28. Trouble is, Labour’s scare tactics about their opponents just don’t wash anymore.
33. For those who can’t see it;
Ken: Why did you vote for extra powers for the Mayor?
Boris: (witheringly) I didn’t think you’d be so foolish as to seek a third term.
26 “14% lead would be the conservatives biggest ever with ComRes.”
Just what is needed for the locals and Mayoral elections.
May 1st will be a bloodbath - postal vote fraud aside.
35. They could always say Nick Clegg is like Neil Kinnock to split the anti Labour vote?
Boris seems as if he is full of confidence tonight, this is really helping him.
39. Unless he does a Nick Clegg / Neil Kinnock and gaffes!
Mike - can we maybe put some sort of SPAM filter on Martin Days posts that mention both Clegg and Kinnock - once the two words are mentioned in any other post by anyone else perhaps the filter could be temporarly lifted.
I must say the sky presentation makes the BBC look very average. a much more interactive and interesting debate.
35. it worked for Major in 92, it worked for Bush in 88. Scare tactics are one of the best tools in the incumbents box.
15 Hat-tip. Thsanks for the link.
Here it is again…http://news.sky.com/skynews/livenewsevents
OMG - Dale has just given the first round to Boris!
[5] - Mike L was onto it pretty much instantaneously. The Guardian also raised it as an issue. Nobody can say that they didn’t know about this last year - just admit that they were so excited at temporarily wrong-footing Cameron that they lost their senses.
Paddick is pretty rubbish. He sounds like John Major’s illegitimate.
Boris blowing smoke up paddick’s arse to isolate Livingstale.
Does Ken look gutted ?
45 Oh quel surprise wonder which candidate he supports
46 - Ming (and rest of the sensible people - i.e. LDs) - were on to it very quickly as well - it just takes a year for those pathetic people who get stunned in the headlight of grinning-blair-style politics.
Very good one from Ken there, weary and condescending to Boris. Echoes of Gore in ‘00 though. He was of course beaten by an inarticulate privileged outsider.
50 - yes, Cameron missed it. You’d have thought his shadow Chancellor might have passed him a slip of paper to prompt him. I presume Cable spotted it immediately, and passed a slip to Ming.
Good to see the Pakistani/Bangledeshi comunity defending Livingstale so loyally.
49 Mark, I believe “surprise” is feminine,not masculine.
Good to see that Welsh numismatics is not your only blindspot!
Are you Lib Dems huddling together for warmth whilst your bloke blows in the wind?
PS the Lib Dems were have longer to sit the exam on budget day.
52 - To be fair to Cameron - Whereas he had a few seconds the politcal commentry world had a year…Having said that I don’t remember Cameron being overly concerned about the policy 6 months ago…
rofl: All London needs to stop black kids from shooting each other is more youth clubs.
Livingstale getting beaten up by paddick.
Not a winner.
57 did someone say that?
This is very much an attack Ken debate, he is taking the majority of the attacks and he is looking very remorseful, it almost looks as if he thinks it’s over.
95 Nope but all you Tories seem to be looking at the debate through blue tinted glasses
59. It was more or less what Ken just said. He knows its rot.
60. Yes he looks almost sad.
I wonder if anyone genuinely unbiased, like Mike, is watching this?
61 Everyone is waiting for your gems of enlightenment.
Mark. Are you saying Paddick is doing well?
Quick reply to Frank Booth a coupla threads back - no, I don’t personally think people should get to vote in two places. The argument is ‘no taxation without representation’, though - if you pay council tax somewhere, shouldn’t you have a say in how it’s spent?
I don’t feel strongly enough to boycott the system though.
He never misses an opportunity to fail to impress!
65 I’m not watching it Corrie is more interesting lol
Ken is doing as I said last time. He’s losing with grace. I’m impressed.
But Paddick attacking the stop and search of black youths really plays into the hands of the far right. How many of the murders of young black men were committed by young black men? Nearly all of them. There’s a reason to search people. The police get an unfair kicking far too often and particularly by ex-cop Brian ‘Brixton is lovely’ Paddick.
Paddick isn’t doing well but better than QT last Thursday (he could hardly be worse). At least he has stopped randomly butting in, though that could be because the Sky event is better generally than the BBC’s effort.
WATCHING THE DEBATE?
– PLEASE TELL
..if Boris is bringing up anything relating to this ES paper about Ken’s ‘dirty tricks’: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-mayor/article-23480845-details/Pro-Ken+Muslim+group+claims+Boris+%27would+scrap+the+Koran%27/article.do
67. “He never misses an opportunity to fail to impress!”
Shouldn’t you attribute that?
Nick, but surely the taxpayer is paying taxes for at least one of your houses
66. Nick, could you help me with something. I have a friend moving to Nottingham around the university area, what would be their constituency?
To be fair to Gaz - this youth club/young crime theory has almost become an unspoken urban truth. It’s just silly - why bother tackling the underlying issues when you can just build a few youth clubs.(!)?
Good to see bloggers doing the offline commentary rather than has been politicians. They are more direct and punchy.
re 63. Sally - Sadly not. You can’t get Sky news on Virgin media and I’ve had problems with the streaming video.
72 Yes. Credit where credit is due…The Times on Brian.
72 Yes. Credit where credit is due…The Times on Brian.
66 In other words as long as there is an advantage for Labour, its ok.
Hilton was agreeing with Ken that because people have nothing to do they are justified in stabbing other people.
Excellent defence of multiculturalism by Ken.
61 The only glasses I will be looking through on Friday are beer glasses as I celebrate winning our bet on the tories gaining more than 120 seats in the local elections.
It won’t stop you being wrong on your polling interpretations, it won’t stop you being a sour old trot in need of some chill-out therapy but it will give Helen House a few quid to do something useful with.
http://www.lbc.co.uk/article.asp?id=26153 - You can listen to the debate live here.
69 Yes, Truth can be a sticky one.
What to do? Tell truth or lie. Tough one that.
66 - they don’t really pay taxes in two places though do they? - They council tax exemptions for second homes are massive and up to 100%
61: Paddick is odd and would be whatever the party.
76 - they’re acting as creatures of the night on televisual format!
ps- ken did good on multi-culturalism
Paddick now being laughed at
81 yes. Ken going for the Pakistani / Bangladeshi bloc.
76
where is the blog link?
That Paddick comment about uniting London was hillarious.
Adam Boulton is doing a very strict job as a debate leader. He is keeping it very much on topic.
Ken is talking as if Boris is going to win.
83
Thank you very much!
Boris is pretty good, the audience clearly like him, and I can’t blame them. He’s also looking more Mayoral by the day.
Paddick is getting laughed at. As in the BBC debate, he brought up the allegations of racism against Boris and anti-Semitism against Ken, so he could claim he’s the only candidate untainted by such perceptions - pretty underhand tactics, IMO.
91 After a brilliant 60yd dash, he droppped the ball.
Boris being uncharactistally mean on the old age bus question.
Good question by Boulton here, “are any of you going to save money?”
82 I think it will be touch and go but you may end up just a few gains short of 120 .
it actually has to be one of the better debates. Boris actually a bit like his normal witty self. Ken looks a little resigned I have to say, but he does get some points in. Paddick seems determined to take on Ken so he is getting pincered.
89. Nothing wrong with that.
Plus not everyone who thinks that a pluralist society is the way forward is an ethnic minority.
74. Which uni. Trent or Nottingham?
This is pretty good. Better than QT .Through my light blue specks Boris is good. His seriousness is less forced. He is funnier without being flippant. Bags of energy, keen to speak and no bumbling.
Paddick is less awful than last time. He and Boris are being nicer to each other and its helping both. Or rather Boris is being nicer to Paddick and he clearly likes it.
102. Nottingham
73: The taxpayer pays the rent and some of the expenses of having a London flat, but I top it up, so you can make a case either way. But I’m not really defending the system, any more than I defend FPTP. One can play by the rules and still disagree with them. Not worth our time debating it - if Boris is only one vote ahead he’s in trouble!
74: Depends! If your friend is at Nottingham University then
(s)he’ll probably be living either in Lenton (safe Labour, Alan Simpson retiring) or Beeston (Broxtowe!). If your friend votes Labour, say how wonderful Beeston is… Nottingham Trent Uni is a long way off, partly in the centre and partly in Clifton (Ken Clarke).
I hope that Boris does make use of Ken’s London knowledge in the next four years. It would be a waste not to.
I never thought I’d write anything as pro-Ken as that!
Adam Boulton would improve the BBC coverage.
101 Hitler went for the Blond bloc. Didnt work though. Not enough blonds you see.
As a non-london neutral - I must say Boris is doing much better than in previous debates, though.
And yes - Boulton is good (as is A Neil - one of the few things the bbc (aka poll tax) has going for it)
101
Multiculti theory will soon be a thing of the past… once the Right will be finished taking all over Europe…
Boris came across as coached by Toy minders at the start of the QT debate (endless references to “the Labour Mayor” etc) but once he ditched all that and became himself he was far better.
He is continuing this tonight and is trumping the other two.
85: Most councils nowadays only give you 10% off for a second home - certainly Westminster does. About the only Westminster Council policy I agree with (I think there should be no discount at all, and possibly a surcharge).
Hilton just said Ken was drunk when he made concentration guard comment. Good one Hilton, what a tw*t.
It’s very telling that its taken a year for the Tories to criticise the 10p tax scrapping. Whereas that sharp Owl Ming was onto it straight away. When you also consider his defence of parents who lie in order to get their kids into the best schools, it’s clear the audience he’s speaking to. The selfish middle class. It’s a strategy that might work, but it’ll depend on gaining support from some of the traditional working class that are not generally taken with the Old-Etonian charm.
The most memorable thing I remember Cameron saying was last when asked about inequality, he said ‘I think what people are concerned about is the gap between those at the bottom and those in the middle.’ Forget speeches, soundbites, election broadcasts, it’s responses to tough questions that reveal the true character. Cameron will be a friend of the very rich.
I bet Iain Blair is watching this debate with trepidation. He is a goner. Boris should offer Paddick a job
99. Sean Fear is predicting about 200 Tory gains. A battle royal, like MORI/Yougov
105 - “Not worth our time debating it” - Quite, what is the point of debating tax and democratic election policies?(!!)
Yes. Boulton comes out a winner too. A commercial broadcaster smacks the bottom of the national broadcaster again.
103. I feel rather sorry for Paddick actually - he seems to me like a fairly decent guy, who’s just been completely squeezed out in an election that’s all about the two big personalities. This election has become polarised about Ken vs Boris, and the fact that Paddick has refused to side with one or the other has stopped him from attracting much interest.
99 well, even if you win I’ll be happy to have pinned you down to accepting the tories will make significant progress, whichever way the LD machine spins it (the old ‘if you exclude all the areas we did badly in we actually did rather well’ line from last year might reappear)
95 Agreed. I have never seen Boris as animated. Fighting fit form, standing his ground, tackling lies and distractions where he finds them and keeping the humour.
I was starting to give Paddick some credence until he blew it.
Good one liner about Boris’s bike helmet from Ken. Got a lot of applause.
I WANT TO VOTE FOR BORIS!!!!!!
118 - What stopped him attracting any interest is that he really isn’t interesting. In fact I have found him at times to be quite nasty.
111 - Are you sure about that? - I doubt that westminster is going to be representative.
111 - I have heard of 100% second home tax exemptions and like most sneeky keep the rich richer policies it’s hard to examine.
Barack Obama’s Muslim Childhood
by Daniel Pipes
http://www.danielpipes.org/pubarticle.php?id=527
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That is bad timing for Obama…
So not surprisingly, all the Tories on here think Boris is doing well.
Marc Ambinder reports that superdelegate Senator Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico has endorsed Obama :
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/04/in_bingaman_obama_bags_a_senat.php
111 - Out of interest - Do you know what the second home council tax exemption is in Nottingham?
113 garbage from beginning to end; what is the point of making such a post? it adds nothing to betting, the subject of the thread or even boosting your own team’s morale.
I prefer it when you make a prediction, explain it and then explain why you’re sticking to it despite the vicissitudes of the news agenda.
You think Ken’s going to edge it - an update to this would be more useful and interesting than silly posts about how the evil tories will set fire to your baby before stealing all your possessions.
109 You could be right. Hitler had to take over Germany with 33%of the vote. The remaining countries needed to be taken by war.
In a unified European State, control need only be taken once.
127 - about as surprising as Phillippe banging on about Islam.
105. Are you sure Nottingham South is safe Labour with Alan Simpson going Nick. I wouldn’t be so sure!!
A good debate, Ken had some good one liners, but Boris did really well and impressed me. Paddick did ok, but he is a little fish caught in between two very large sharks.
I wonder what debate you people are watching.
The only comments of substance have come from Ken.
So Tories are turning up only twice a month for their £50 grand. And who was the Tory who voted against a community project but the voted for a pay rise? The Evening Substandard is silent.
All aboard Boris’s gravy train.
“Scare tactics are one of the best tools in the incumbents box.”
Vile, absolutely vile.
105. It’ll be one for you Nick, if Beeston.
127 So surprisingly, all the Lefties on here are quiet.
Full marks to Boulton. This was not an exercise in him preening and demonstrating his ‘Paxman’ muscles. He got a feel of what the audience wanted to know and made the candidates stick to the issues without interupting the flow and sapping the energy and feel of a public meeting.
136. Yep. True though.
126 - And just for good measure to attack the disgusting far right as much as the authoritarian left.
“Barack Obama’s Muslim Childhood”
Vile. Absolutely vile.
Put both in a box and let them kill each other, that’s my platform.
(BTW, nobody seems to know the French for ‘One Trick Pony’, anyone?)
113. Sorry Frank your wrong. Here’s the initial press release from the Conservatives pointing out it was a Tax con that penalised the lower paid. The date March 21st 2007.
http://www.conservatives.com/pdf/taxconnottaxcut.pdf
135. The moment the debate ends a poster who-has-never-been-heard-of- before fetches up on here, and makes dreary and witless remarks hugely in favour of one candidate.
“Derek” my imperial Cornish ARSE.
Bog off, turfboy.
I’ve never heard Recess Monkey monkey speak before. I can’t say I’m impressed.
135 - That is the problem of the GLA system. The Assembly has no power. If they turned up more often they would just be sat in offices playing solitaire.
115 My 120 is England only
144:
Oops, forgive my stammer.
140 - In your fetid excuse for a mind maybe.
Some of us prefer to be human.
Ken’s delivery has been very weak. He has lost conviction, passion and most importantly confidence.
66
I’m sure you don’t Nick, but I bet you’d think otherwise and say otherwise if Labour had a 14% lead. Magnificent duplicity…
130 - You’re being silly. 113 is an excellent post. To put those kind of limits on posts would mean that 99% of them would have to disappear.
Who is the Asian blogger commentator?
148. Get off your high horse. I wasn’t saying they were the “right” thing to do. I didn’t condone them or say they would swing my vote. I simply said that they had worked in the past.
148. Get off your high horse. I wasn’t saying they were the “right” thing to do. I didn’t condone them or say they would swing my vote. I simply said that they had worked in the past.
Derek
‘All aboard BORIS’S gravy train’. Where on earth have you been?…
141
Vile? Yes!
Effective? Maybe! — maybe the GOP will try it first on focus group…
anyone else seeing Hilton getting done over on the Sky Extra programme. It is absolutely great to watch!
142 - dated 31st march - so you’re saying that the con opposition disagreed with the government budget at around budget time. wow. They said nothing since until they thought it might have some opportunistic electioneering advantage (because they in all likehood agreed with it).
152 - I believe it is Hilton/Recess Monkey
Hilton is an odious little man.
113- agreed Frank Booth- what the hell do Cameron and Osborne, bip and bop, care about the poor, disadvantaged, and marginalised. They are upper class toff tories on an ego trip.
154 - If I had the money I’d set up an organisation purely to hound any politician who attempts to launch negative attacks on others instead of creating positive policy. Digging into their private and public lives and trussing them up like a chicken.
Of course this is purely as a response, it would be their call if they wanted that sort of treatment. The one thing that the type who do this don’t like is having their own tactics turned against them.
And frankly, if nobody takes a moral position you are all scrabbling around in the gutter.
137: In that case, let me stress that Beeston is the pearl of the universe…
150: er, what? I don’t usually have trouble following you, MTF, but I can’t understand what the lead has to do with whether people should be able to vote in a second home as in post 66? Or do you mean FPTP? I’ve been against that consistently all my life, in good Labour times and bad. It’s simply unfair.
155
On Ken’s gravy train?
155
On Ken’s gravy train?
143. The fact that your ARSE is both imperial and Cornish was a revelation I hadn’t banked on, but thanks for the information anyway.
I don’t know what a turfboy is.
What I can say for certain is that I’m not a member of a political party, I’m not part of anything related to Ken’s campaign.
I am, however, a lurker on the site and a very rare poster.
As you can see I haven’t chosen to bog off.
162. I hate scare tactics, i think they are disgusting. The best way we can destroy them is by not voting for people who use them. But not everyone thinks the same, think of Clinton’s 3AM and Bush’s Wille Horton ad, they worked. Which is why I support Obama because he doesn’t use them, he uses a positive message and does so successfully.
Anthony Wells has ComRes numbers;
Con 40% Lab 26% Lib 20%
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/
161: There is a long tradition of upper class toffs doing things for the poor.
163 - “it’s simply unfair” - But not worth debating?
That was by a mile the best Debate that Boris has been involved in.
He sounded assured abd confident.
Paddick on the other hand might as well get his coat now.
Ken was his usual self.
We have just had some lib dem lit through the door.All it does is attack Boris.Not one mention of Ken
That tells you the real Lib Dem thought process…
152 “Who is the Asian blogger commentator?”
Alex Hilton from Labourhome. A Labour clone.
The conservative bloggers come across as calm, rational and reasonable.
Leftie Hilton comes across as rabid, flakey & half baked.
Nottingham 2nd home discount is 10%. I think you used to be right, but a few years ago the Government allowed councils to lower the discount to 10%, and the vast majority said aha, more revenue, yummy.
Signing off for a while - real work calls…
Obama in North Carolina
Come on boy, do not screw this one!:
NC lead last week: 25 points;
NC lead now: 12 points
Tendency: he is going down down down…
http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/04/nc_poll_obamas_lead_cut.html
At this rate, how long before Labour are overtaken by Cleggover&co?
168 Martin Day will be upset Cleggy rising in the polls .
156. So Phillippe, in the whole wide United States, is there absolutely no blog, newspaper or TV channel saying anything remotely negative about Clinton or McCain?
169- well Ralphie- we will all see soon enough, whether bip and bop, Dave and George, really do care about making everyone’s lives better, or whether they are just a couple of Toryboy toffs out for a wheeze.
Soon they will be PM and chancellor
130 (Mr. Bongo)- Give Mr. Booth (113) his due. He has nicely illustrated that there is a class of Labour voter not interested in seeing to it that all can enjoy a respectable lifestyle (i.e., concerned with “the gap between those at the bottom and those in the middle”) but are instead obsessed with the fact that some people are rich (undeservedly, no doubt). This mentality that fixates on punishing the wealthy for their sins is what has always given socialism its dangerous edge, not to mention its ineffectiveness in achieving social progress, and has led to its widespread rejection.
176. Yes, Lib-Dems are coming back up. I suppose some of that may be because there is a national election going on and the Libs are getting more attanetion than normal, but Clegg does seem to be have some polling sucess now.
How long before we see Labour behind the Libs in a national poll? ;
175 Cleggover moving on the immigration issue. Perhaps he has finally smelt the coffee.
Re the Comms Research Poll, if correct how will Rentoul explain this?
Get those bets on for Crewe and Nantwich before the Conservative and Liberal Democrat prices harden.
174 - This is one poll. It may be an outlier. It is likely that PPP were overstating the Obama lead to start off with. Anyway until we have more polls it is premature to talk about definite and inevitable movement.
167
Really? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WynLgJFBxSs
173 - Thanks for getting back to me on that (especially as it is hardly worth debating…)
176- Mark Senior- I think that Cleggover is the real deal by the way.
Shame about the bunch of spinach eating, sandal wearing, jostick burning, beardy wierdy, unruly mob that he leads.
172: ‘152 “Who is the Asian blogger commentator?”
Alex Hilton from Labourhome. A Labour clone.’
He’s not Asian is he? I thought he was Jewish.
Anthony Wells has just added this little piece to his ComRes blog.
Make sure you are sitting down little Lib Dems…
UPDATE: Just a thought, that’s only a six point gap between Labour and the Lib Dems. If the Lib Dems moved to second place it would be a huge boost for them and their image as real contender. Lib Dems winning here and all that. Still - just an idle thought, it’s a long way away yet.
177
Here you go : http://www.dailykos.com/
They also divinize Obama:
“Obama was born with his sun in Leo, and his story exemplifies the quest of the Solar Hero. His father, who joins with his mother on an island, conceives a child, and soon thereafter leaves the child and mother to continue his own journeying. Obama, a ’special ‘child, left to create his own internal image of ‘father’, and related meanings of strength, protection, leadership, etc.”
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/26/83118/7371/654/503796
now Hilton and Dale getting very catty! looks like dale wanted to knock hilton out. this is better than anything i have seen
168. Ouch. 26% Labour?!! Lawks amercy.
I remember recent speculation, on here, to the effect that Labour’s core vote may now be as low as 25%.
We may have to REspeculate.
22%? 20%? Anyone go any lower than 20%? What am I bid for… 15%?
Heh.
118. Trust me Paddick is not a nice person from what I’ve seen. I spent a day with him and he was thoroughly obnoxious, haughty, hectoring, downright nasty, and a long, long, way up his own posterior. As far as I could judge no-one in the force liked him.
Paris Hilton & Miss piggy banging on about gay marriage.
Opposing gay marriage is not homophobic. Marriage is designed for men and women to give children a stable upbringing.
167 - There may be a time that fire needs to be fought with fire, a sort of nuclear deterrent of campaigning with Mutually Assured Destruction of both candidates as the result.
174 - What price will you offer me on Obama winning the nomination? Sounds as though you’ll give me 2/1, I’ll have £50 on if you are prepared to do that. If not then what are your odds?
179 - this kind of post (i.e yours - not 113), happens very frequently. From now on I am only goint to repsond with-
”
Laffer-Curve-Tastic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve
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187 watching it on the internet. Hilton is indeed odious.
186 LOL the people you describe are in the old Liberal party .
177 - Part II
Why do you ask?
A couple more points;
In ComRes’s April 2007 poll (again during a national election campaign) the Lib-Dems polled 22%. Looking at it that way, Clegg is doing WORSE than Ming.
The other point is that 26% is the lowest Labour has ever polled with ComRes.
199 Rory Bremner now on, should be fun…
Ken is going to need your vote Nick. Difficult to see how the Tories can be double digit ahead nationally and be behind in London -according to some pollsters anyway.
178: I can’t tell for Cameron and Osbourne but IDS does seem to honestly want to sort things out for them.
174- ukPaul- I think you have to be competitive with BF on this, and Obama is still 5-1 on.
I’ll go 100 notes if Philippe is prepared to go 2-1, and then ofset any possible losses on BF.
199 The election effect this year will be a bit less than last year as there were much more widespread elections last year .
187 Initially I thought he was Asian, more specifically Pakistani rather than Indian or Bangladeshi or from Ceylon. He just reminded me of someone I worked with in Burger King.